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Pat Wagner's avatar

Thank you. Your definitions are clean - without excessive jargon - and concrete. And I agree with your assessment of how throwing around insults damages the integrity of conversations. Coming from an immigrant Jewish family, I don't respond well when people use words like Nazi and Hitler to denigrate people they don't like. I prefer they reserve the words for people who define themselves as Nazis, either then or now - or the actual Hitler.

Also, as someone influenced by Alfred Korzybski at a layperson's level, meaning simplistically, I find it useful to not worry so much about the label than to be able to describe and understand the specific thought, decision, or action, as you have done.

What I find interesting is what happens when you ask a person to provide you with the specifics of why they are using a particular word. Too often they parrot a dictionary definition and flounder when asked for concrete descriptions and real world examples: what I call the real world "by which I mean." If they can expound on a real world action, then we can talk about that action, based on more than subjective abstractions and not waste time trying to agree what to call it.

Also, my experience is that not using insults tends to lower the emotionality of a situation, which makes for a conversation where people can listen to each other and not feel so defensive.

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So how did the Democrats converting Republican presidential candidates to Fascists come to overlook Dwight Eisenhower, Bob Dole, John McCain, and Mitt Romney?

Come to think of it, *did* the Democrats overlook Dwight Eisenhower, Bob Dole, John McCain, and Mitt Romney?

My memory being inexact, I had recourse to the Internet using a search engine and an AI model. Be aware these are biased sources.

Apparently Bob Dole was "not typically" accused of being a Fascist, and Dwight Eisenhower not ever. Both John McCain and Mitt Romney were, but it wasn't the biggest deal.

But I think it's obvious that Eisenhower's exemption was because he had just led the triumphant international crusade against the Fascists. Nowadays that wouldn't be enough, but back then it was considered sufficient refutation in advance.

And the other three didn't come under full-scale attack because they weren't much of a threat to the Democratic candidate.

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