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Bob Frank's avatar

The jubilant response of Gazans to atrocities is worth noting.

Students of history will be aware of the Nazis' need to design their extermination apparatus in convoluted and ingenuous ways in order to work around the human conscience, to make it so that the individual Nazi soldiers actually doing the killing had plausible deniability and could say to themselves "I wasn't responsible for murdering all those people; I only did this little thing."

In Gaza, *they do not have that.* They openly commit mass murder, rejoice over it, and call their parents to brag about the Jews they just killed.

Hamas did not simply adopt and perpetuate what they learned from Hitler; they iterated on its design, and have produced a society that is, in a very real and literal sense, even more evil than Nazi Germany.

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Steve's avatar

I bought into The 2 State Solution. That was Dead by noon on Oct 7 2023. Oct. 7 was a Serious Dose of Reality. And the response in the West/College campuses even more so.

I wish I had a solution, but I don't. The Palestinians are living in a Fantasy world where The Jews are going leave, and "From the River To The Sea" will become a reality.

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Robert F. Graboyes's avatar

Been a problem for a while.

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Steve's avatar

Yup.

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Steve's avatar

Palestinians: How can you make peace?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TZDY8OAEKE

Mar. 8 2025

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So many living in fantasy land.

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Mr. Ala's avatar

It was already dead. In fact, it was stillborn. It never had a chance, for reasons which at this moment must be blindingly obvious.

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Steve's avatar

I saw it as The Only Peaceful solution. NOW I don't know what (if anything) can be done to bring something like peace to the area. Prayer? Because IMO its gonna take a (parting the red sea) miracle.

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Mr. Ala's avatar

Not at all. The Palestinians can leave.

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Steve's avatar

And Go Where?

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Mr. Ala's avatar

I nominate Ellesmere Island.

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Robert F. Graboyes's avatar

Indeed, and that’s one of Professor Patterson’s points. Extremely important.

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Fred's avatar

Thank you, Professors Grayboyes and Patterson, for this insight into the minds of anti-Semites, whether they be Palestinian or others. The world needs to see the deep roots of this rot, and how far it spreads. We also need to be reminded of its Nazi roots and that it finds its philosophical basis in the shame that caused Adam and Cain to hide from God. An excellent observation.

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RJ's avatar

I never could figure out why so many people who don't give a fig about Christianity or Islam or any other religion should be so relentlessly antisemitic. Dr Patterson's last paragraph explains it very neatly: it is just a manifestation of original sin. I wonder if Calvin ever made that connection.

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Steve's avatar

"BROTHERHOOD AND MUFTI"

Learn Something New Everyday.

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Robert F. Graboyes's avatar

Which is a good thing!

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Steve  C's avatar

Just a note about another book on a similar subject. https://www.amazon.com/Time-Immemorial-Publisher-JKAP-Publications/dp/B004XDFY0Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=1JHKAKWDTT6QC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fsqQvS74stE5VJ-jSi9dGaswNJpfVMBecChPae6kjCr-vP0DJoovM3tNket-83KaNgcSQ0mVHJr72kD1chFdeiagkp4lg_9sWeRwCNGewvU.aFOPQPo268EzalAS2F3JRPA36WPoeVCRqIsTIWmWlfE&dib_tag=se&keywords=from+time+immemorial+by+joan+peters&qid=1741545759&sprefix=crom+time+im%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-2 The British after WWII knowing that the Jews of “Palestine” supported them during the war chose to put Husseini as the grand mufti of Jerusalem knowing full well his hatred of the Jews. The British had no love for the Jews and no appreciation for their fighting on the side of the Allies. Sadly looking at Britten today I’m not sure anything has changed.

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Robert F. Graboyes's avatar

After WWI, you mean. Even more ironically, Husseini was appointed Mufti by Herbert Samuel—the Jewish governor of Britain’s Palestine Mandate. Thought he could co-opt him with the appointment, which was supported by a rather antisemitic crew of officials at Whitehall. If I remember correctly, the British asked the Palestinian Arabs to nominate three candidates for Mufti, with the Brits making the final choice. They offered three reasonable names, and the Brits threw out that list and chose Husseini on the assumption that he would cease plotting against them.

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Robert F. Graboyes's avatar

Quite a tie! No idea whether it was meant to have any significance. The swastika was originally an Eastern religious symbol and adorns the stonework of a number of pre-WWII buildings in Washington, DC.

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Dog's avatar

I know about the origins, but when the muslim brotherhood and the grand mufti all come from egypt, it probably means naziism.

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Reality Seeker's avatar

G-d the creator, above man. Humanity and law above raw biological behavior. Hitler wanted he and his Aryans to be above, as Prof. Patterson says in his chapter, the “tyrannical God of the Jews” and "His life-denying (laws)” "that the Jews (brought) into the world." Nazis wanted to create the laws and be as powerful and inhumane as they cared to. Similarly, the Islamists want their theo/ideology to be above all others in spite of others' more civilizationally enlightened beliefs in order to be as powerful and inhumane as they care to.

Good old fashioned human nature. The joy of power, arrogance, hate, violence, greed, and self-satisfaction not to be denied by the G-d, laws, and humanity introduced by the Jews. The Jews can never escape this. Evidently, human nature cannot be changed fully enough to rid us of Jew-hatred. We are a small group. Currently, it seems it's too politically incorrect for the West to fight this battle.

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James Nick's avatar

I hesitate to recommend works of fiction alongside the scholarly work presented in this post, but I will. Philip Kerr’s “Bernie Gunther” series takes the reader into an extremely well-researched Germany prior to, during and after the Nazi takeover. It’s where I first learned of the link between Islam (specifically the Grand Mufti) and the Nazis. While it is certainly great reading, it’s also very eye-opening and educational.

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Robert F. Graboyes's avatar

You are absolutely welcome to recommend fiction. I often do.

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sk's avatar

Gentlemen: Exceptional post! Might be the best one I have ever read on Substack and if not very close to the top, and clearly as insightful a post as there has been with regard to Middle East, Muslims and Jews. Bravo!

It is also confirmatory as to my view of a two state solution being nothing more than the two state delusion.

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Robert F. Graboyes's avatar

Many thanks!

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