Well, crap. So much for being able to watch a costume drama without being related to any of the characters (as I just did—or thought I did—with "Anne of the Thousand Days" off TCM). Malcolm, Duncan, and Kenneth MacAlpin? Directs, via a Spence colonial ancestor. Alfred the Great? Ditto. Mathilda of Flanders and William the Conqueror? Yep, via the first two Henrys and John on the wrong side of the blanket. And, actually, six of Henry I's two dozen mistresses.
Granted, with those exceptions, the relationships are pretty darned remote, so I reckon I can continue to ignore them and concentrate on the direct ancestors. With a few exceptions, like Great Aunt Aethelflaed, Lady of the Mercians, who kicked Danish behind. And Cousin Elizabeth II, because I know the two places where we share directs and I'm kind of a fan of hers.
Great job, Mr. G. ... I just didn't need to know that the whole lot of them are cousins of some sort.
Mary and Anne were actually older than their brother James as they were born to James II and his first wife, Ann Hyde. Their brother was born to James II And his second wife, a Catholic. Because males took precedence, James should have been James III, but as already mentioned, William of Orange, aided by John Churchill and others, made sure he and his father never got back on the throne.
Fascinating, quite a work to produces those charts. I tried something simpler, a run down of the kings and queens of England from Alfred the Great. from my WordPress site.
Thanks for catching that the Dowager Electress Sophia, a Tough Old Girl, ALMOST became Queen, missing her chance by six weeks. She was 84 at time of sudden death and would have been Britain's oldest new sovereign. But Edward IV of England may have been illegitimate and NOT his father's son---yes, there has been a serious TV show on this--so an Australian should be--IS!!!--The Rightful King--except that on being interviewed/confronted HM stated he felt the Monarchy should be abolished.
Norway and Denmark would be a good project. Spain with its extensions to and into Austria and France would likely be a much more involved project. Even get some Greek and therefore Danish bits too. Sweden would be short if you only bothered with the last group: Bernadotte from 1812(?).
Bravo BTW. This is so excellent. Maybe the Danish, Swedish and Spanish monarchies should hire you to do the same for them! The interlocking relationships are impossible to keep track of. (The ouiji board also says 'stay away from Germany. There madness lies'.
A slight error in chart 2, numbers 14 through 16. Mary of Orange, sister of James VII & II (#13) married William II of Orange. (They sheltered Charles II during the inter-regnum.) Their son William III married Mary, daughter of James. William II was never king of England as the #16 implies. Note that Mary Stuart was older than James, so should fit between Charles II and James II. Add a line for some space, and steal some space from the #13 box , so that you could add beside Mary of Orange a '= William II' with an arrow down to William III. Then #14 is William III and Mary, to 1694, #15 is William III to 1702, and #16 is Anne, which is the actual progression.
Wonderful, painstakingly researched charts! I like reading about the history of the British monarchy, but as you mentioned, all those Richards, Edwards, and Henrys; and Marys, Elizabeths, and Annes confuse the heck out of me. The color bars you used in the charts reminded me of piano keys. Knowing your talent, I bet you could compose a tune to go with the charts! 👍😉
Charles I was ousted by Cromwell. Charles II died of kidney failure. James II was deposed by his daughter and son-in law (William III and Mary) with the help of the Duke of Marlborough, Randolph Churchill, and Parliament.
Wonderful chart, Robert. I, myself found out through the LDS Genealogy website that I am descended from King John Lackland. Me and many, many others for sure. I'll have to sit down with your chart to see how many times removed I am from the House of Windsor....
Well, crap. So much for being able to watch a costume drama without being related to any of the characters (as I just did—or thought I did—with "Anne of the Thousand Days" off TCM). Malcolm, Duncan, and Kenneth MacAlpin? Directs, via a Spence colonial ancestor. Alfred the Great? Ditto. Mathilda of Flanders and William the Conqueror? Yep, via the first two Henrys and John on the wrong side of the blanket. And, actually, six of Henry I's two dozen mistresses.
Granted, with those exceptions, the relationships are pretty darned remote, so I reckon I can continue to ignore them and concentrate on the direct ancestors. With a few exceptions, like Great Aunt Aethelflaed, Lady of the Mercians, who kicked Danish behind. And Cousin Elizabeth II, because I know the two places where we share directs and I'm kind of a fan of hers.
Great job, Mr. G. ... I just didn't need to know that the whole lot of them are cousins of some sort.
Mary and Anne were actually older than their brother James as they were born to James II and his first wife, Ann Hyde. Their brother was born to James II And his second wife, a Catholic. Because males took precedence, James should have been James III, but as already mentioned, William of Orange, aided by John Churchill and others, made sure he and his father never got back on the throne.
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Fascinating, quite a work to produces those charts. I tried something simpler, a run down of the kings and queens of England from Alfred the Great. from my WordPress site.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/03/19/k-is-for-kings/
Thanks for catching that the Dowager Electress Sophia, a Tough Old Girl, ALMOST became Queen, missing her chance by six weeks. She was 84 at time of sudden death and would have been Britain's oldest new sovereign. But Edward IV of England may have been illegitimate and NOT his father's son---yes, there has been a serious TV show on this--so an Australian should be--IS!!!--The Rightful King--except that on being interviewed/confronted HM stated he felt the Monarchy should be abolished.
Egypt would take a lot more than 5 charts!
Norway and Denmark would be a good project. Spain with its extensions to and into Austria and France would likely be a much more involved project. Even get some Greek and therefore Danish bits too. Sweden would be short if you only bothered with the last group: Bernadotte from 1812(?).
Bravo BTW. This is so excellent. Maybe the Danish, Swedish and Spanish monarchies should hire you to do the same for them! The interlocking relationships are impossible to keep track of. (The ouiji board also says 'stay away from Germany. There madness lies'.
A slight error in chart 2, numbers 14 through 16. Mary of Orange, sister of James VII & II (#13) married William II of Orange. (They sheltered Charles II during the inter-regnum.) Their son William III married Mary, daughter of James. William II was never king of England as the #16 implies. Note that Mary Stuart was older than James, so should fit between Charles II and James II. Add a line for some space, and steal some space from the #13 box , so that you could add beside Mary of Orange a '= William II' with an arrow down to William III. Then #14 is William III and Mary, to 1694, #15 is William III to 1702, and #16 is Anne, which is the actual progression.
Mary's "fever" was smallpox. There was a big outbreak at the time.
One of the factors pushing research into variolation & vaccination.
Thank you! Fascinating and so appreciated!
Wonderful, painstakingly researched charts! I like reading about the history of the British monarchy, but as you mentioned, all those Richards, Edwards, and Henrys; and Marys, Elizabeths, and Annes confuse the heck out of me. The color bars you used in the charts reminded me of piano keys. Knowing your talent, I bet you could compose a tune to go with the charts! 👍😉
Fabulously well done, and even better - utterly fascinating!
Charles I was ousted by Cromwell. Charles II died of kidney failure. James II was deposed by his daughter and son-in law (William III and Mary) with the help of the Duke of Marlborough, Randolph Churchill, and Parliament.
Wonderful chart, Robert. I, myself found out through the LDS Genealogy website that I am descended from King John Lackland. Me and many, many others for sure. I'll have to sit down with your chart to see how many times removed I am from the House of Windsor....
I suggest you missed in the gory diagram at the end that George VI was euthanised by his doctor.